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so you could have an affluent dad like bill gates does, like mitt romney does, but still think of yourself as self-made because you didn't inherit the business that made you a multimillionaire from your dad. and that's particularly important playing into how they think of themselves in the world. it's important right now for these guys to be really numerate. one of the things i found really interesting and quite sort of international is this is really the age of mastery of numbers. and my favorite example of this, you know, we're kind of -- that seems to make sense when you think of the silicon valley guys or the wall street guys, but i'll bet you if you sort of in your mind's eye are imagining the russian oligarchs, you know, you think a guy in some fancy italian suit with a mole on one side and guys with guns on the other side, and this is true. [laughter] but he also probably has a ph.d. in math or physics, you know? even those guys. and this is true also of the chinese, of the indians. it's also a really, really global group. and this is another key characteristic, something which is q
so you could have an affluent dad like bill gates does, like mitt romney does, but still think of yourself as self-made because you didn't inherit the business that made you a multimillionaire from your dad. and that's particularly important playing into how they think of themselves in the world. it's important right now for these guys to be really numerate. one of the things i found really interesting and quite sort of international is this is really the age of mastery of numbers. and my...
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and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even lower. we need to teach her how to walk. she is taking up valuable cart space. aren't you, honey? [ male announcer ] it's clearance time! up to 50% off seasonal decor. 50% off toys. apparel $3 to $9. walmart. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriag
and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even...
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>> well, i think -- mitt romney as a candidate. >> i think he's going to be a very good president. i think he gets it, and i think he is moving forward, and they think he is saying some things that we need to hear. >> you mentioned a new book coming out. what was the title of the? >> the new book coming out is freedom manifesto, why free markets are moral and big government isn't spent that's another book written by you and steve forbes? >> yes, it is. >> we've got it over here. >> it's a little card. >> you've got your back over there. we want to show you the current book while she fishes that out. "how capitalism will save us," and here is the new book by elizabeth ames and steve forbes, freedom manifesto, and the subtitle is -- >> why free markets are moral and big government isn't. spent why is it big government moral? >> because big government makes decisions and takes action based on political agendas, based on selfish political agendas but it's about meeting its own political selfish needs, and free markets are meeting the real-world needs of people. >> well, as somebody who
>> well, i think -- mitt romney as a candidate. >> i think he's going to be a very good president. i think he gets it, and i think he is moving forward, and they think he is saying some things that we need to hear. >> you mentioned a new book coming out. what was the title of the? >> the new book coming out is freedom manifesto, why free markets are moral and big government isn't spent that's another book written by you and steve forbes? >> yes, it is. >>...
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i was never a big romney fan. i didn't have a personal problem with him, but i never thought of him as authentic. the one time i caught him in iowa signing people's posters and it was a rainy day. i said to him can you say let them eat cake in french. it's the ultimate side of being above everyone else. he says i can, but i won't. and he wouldn't look up at me. he's so trained and disciplined. he wanted me to know he was fluent enough in french, but he wasn't going to be stupid enough to do it on camera saying let them eat cake in french. should we believe he didn't really go for it with all he had? >> they said take a month and understand the campaign. you have to understand this is a private man going for the most public job in the country. and he did not want to talk about certain things in his life. and his campaign strategist did not want to talk about his mormon faith and background. >> we knew that about his business career embarrassing. the mormonism is i think a credit to the democrats. nobody likes to be
i was never a big romney fan. i didn't have a personal problem with him, but i never thought of him as authentic. the one time i caught him in iowa signing people's posters and it was a rainy day. i said to him can you say let them eat cake in french. it's the ultimate side of being above everyone else. he says i can, but i won't. and he wouldn't look up at me. he's so trained and disciplined. he wanted me to know he was fluent enough in french, but he wasn't going to be stupid enough to do it...
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obama and romney came close to it. they touched on it, i should say -- >> host: came up in one debate. >> guest: there was some common ground, they found, which my fohave er newspaper, the times,n an editorial, dismissed as sort of meaningless. well, it's not mea-nngless. if youetse going to change the way -- because people commit gun the guns nt themselves. how do you get at the behavior that leads people to use guns in troubled neighborhoods in our cities in new york there are coing nity guns that people sh in fire hydrants or street lamps. well, you can do something about that. you can pass a law, for instance, that made it -- imposed a heavy penalatr on usig a commu-natr gun, and the u.s. did in 2006 raised the minimum sentence for using of -- having a loaded illegal gun on you to three and a half yeais m. i think you can raise it even higher. that might make it clear to people who provide guns illegally to people who can't buy them because their names are on the list in washington in west and ing gi-n bar the nics
obama and romney came close to it. they touched on it, i should say -- >> host: came up in one debate. >> guest: there was some common ground, they found, which my fohave er newspaper, the times,n an editorial, dismissed as sort of meaningless. well, it's not mea-nngless. if youetse going to change the way -- because people commit gun the guns nt themselves. how do you get at the behavior that leads people to use guns in troubled neighborhoods in our cities in new york there are...
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that romney would win. why? they assumed it would be wider and older than it was. the enthusiasm numbers favored them but they didn't have enough voters. many republicans bought in to an alternative polling universe. created by some media pollster master mind to depress republican voting. in 2016, much of the emphasis of both parties to match and improve on the obama campaign's data-driven technological juggernaut and a lesson of 2012, don't ignore the data available to anyone with a computer. >>> second bucket, known as the second-term curse. american presidents successfully win re-election to have a rough ride in years five through eight thanks to legislative overreach, sometimes souring relations with congress, personnel problems, unforeseen external events or scandal. there's always an issue for second-term president and the first post election news conference the president himself acknowledged that his predecessors had their version of second-term struggles. >> i don't presume that because i won an ele
that romney would win. why? they assumed it would be wider and older than it was. the enthusiasm numbers favored them but they didn't have enough voters. many republicans bought in to an alternative polling universe. created by some media pollster master mind to depress republican voting. in 2016, much of the emphasis of both parties to match and improve on the obama campaign's data-driven technological juggernaut and a lesson of 2012, don't ignore the data available to anyone with a computer....
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letterman says you and mitt romney don't like each other, why not? and he said, when we were kids together in kenya growing up and that kind of humor really makes an impact on people because they like it. chris: it's self deprecating, taking the biggest charge against you. >> i'm going with the kerry. the setup thing was terrible but when kerry said you've got a lot of losers up here, it was funny, because the zingers are best when they're not planned. >> you calling him mr. president was funny. >> it's the self deprecating thing. chris: loser is a pretty good word. >> i'm staying with ron paul. the republicans are only going to win the presidency when they stop letting people run who adjust to raise their speaking fees. chris: but it's free to get in. >> anyone can grow up to be president. chris: on a more serious note, our next nominations are for backbone. we have to say that the heroic teachers in newtown, connecticut, and first responders, won every american's highest regard but this show's about politics. in our political awards, our nominees a
letterman says you and mitt romney don't like each other, why not? and he said, when we were kids together in kenya growing up and that kind of humor really makes an impact on people because they like it. chris: it's self deprecating, taking the biggest charge against you. >> i'm going with the kerry. the setup thing was terrible but when kerry said you've got a lot of losers up here, it was funny, because the zingers are best when they're not planned. >> you calling him mr....
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was it mitt romney? don't bet on it. the real boss is a man other woman in the back row of a tea party meeting. the angry one who stands up and scalds him. it's that angry voice rising up from the back of the room that haunts the tea party-backed republican. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership? or, worse yet, the democratic president? or do they want to vote against all of that? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the wall that those of the tea party have raised up. they can't vote for what they campaigned against, spending money on government. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight, in new york city, welcome to "politics nation" second annual revvie awards. it's the best and the worst in politics, 2012. look, all the big stars are on the red carpet. donald trump is in the unreality show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there? >> and what's an awards
was it mitt romney? don't bet on it. the real boss is a man other woman in the back row of a tea party meeting. the angry one who stands up and scalds him. it's that angry voice rising up from the back of the room that haunts the tea party-backed republican. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership? or, worse yet, the democratic president? or do they want to vote against all of that? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the wall that those of...
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ruin the romney. >> oh for sure. >> romney was nowhere to be seen and he had been -- he had the big mo going in. best political theater u. n. ambassador susan rice spinning the benghazi attack. she ended the soap opera with letter withdrawing from her petition for the united states. >> that's the worst? worst is my friend clint eastwood. in the empty chair. >> now wait a minute. >> brought it out -- >> a lot of people liked that. >> it was okay -- i mean it was interesting. >> not good -- >> it blotted out all the film of the great things mitt had done. >> eleanor? >> that's right. okay worst political theater i'm more serious. the senate republicans voting down the u. n. treaty on people with disabilities after senator bob dole made an appearance pleading for passage in his wheelchair. and they just ignore -- they set a low and they ignored him. >> susan? >> i'm going to say again the fiscal cliff because fun the watch but frightening for taxpayers and damaging -- >> ence. if you can cover this up. >> i can guarantee -- >> i agree with -- i agree with you. the fiscal cliff is the wors
ruin the romney. >> oh for sure. >> romney was nowhere to be seen and he had been -- he had the big mo going in. best political theater u. n. ambassador susan rice spinning the benghazi attack. she ended the soap opera with letter withdrawing from her petition for the united states. >> that's the worst? worst is my friend clint eastwood. in the empty chair. >> now wait a minute. >> brought it out -- >> a lot of people liked that. >> it was okay -- i...
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in the end, obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's polauolicies d favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. and romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our poll to go into a convention with his personal rating under water and campaign with a painful number, just 47% of voters viewing him positively. the obama campaign was also able to get more bang for the buck because they bought ads early and they were careful about where to buy the ads. in the last week, they paid $5 fif 50 for a single ad in raleigh. the romney campaign had to pay $2,665 for the same ad. >> lesson two, the republican brand needs a hard look. the gop's favorable rating has been under water for two years, since december 2010. if you take that out, it's been nearly five years. in our final full poll before the election, just 36% of voters said they had a positive view of the republican party. the democratic pa
in the end, obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's polauolicies d favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. and romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our poll to go into a convention with his personal rating under water and campaign with a painful number, just 47% of voters viewing him positively. the obama campaign was also able to get more...
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what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> people have tried to portray you as a kind of ruthless money machine who some failed, some succeeded, you didn't care, you still got your fee, or you made a ton of money but actually quite a few of the companies that made, a lot of people lost their jobs, their livelihoods and lost money. to me the key question is do you know instinctively from your recollections how many of those companies that you went into would have failed anyway if you hadn't? >> well, there's no question but that a number of places where we went in and invested, we were investing in an enterprise that was in trouble, that -- where the future was very much in doubt for it and we invested in one busy think it lost 50 or $60 or more million the year before we invested and a lot of people didn't want to touch it. we were able to go in there with the current management team, help get the business pack on track as anne vestors the managers really ran it but they were able to turn it around see a real success. the i
what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> people have tried to portray you as a kind of ruthless money machine who some failed, some succeeded, you didn't care, you still got your fee, or you made a ton of money but actually quite a few of the companies that made, a lot of people lost their jobs, their livelihoods and lost money. to me the key question is do you know instinctively from your recollections how many of those companies that you went into would have failed anyway if you...
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this time it's tag romney. the oldest of the five romney boys that tells the "boston globe" that his father never wanted to be president that much anyway. funny thing is most of the voters felt the same way. let's bring in jonathan capehart and susan delpersio. i've got to start with you, sorry girl. here's what tag romney tells the "boston globe" about his dad. quote, he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. as a republican, you must be thrilled to hear that. no? >> i think this quote -- as a strategist i think this falls on the category of when family members and friends try to help and make a story look better in which case it kind of backfires. because the truth is you don't do what mitt romney did. he's run for governor, he's run before. you don't do this unless you wanted it more than anything else. however, if it was really the case and he needed to be persuaded to run, that explains a lot. >> although i'm going to
this time it's tag romney. the oldest of the five romney boys that tells the "boston globe" that his father never wanted to be president that much anyway. funny thing is most of the voters felt the same way. let's bring in jonathan capehart and susan delpersio. i've got to start with you, sorry girl. here's what tag romney tells the "boston globe" about his dad. quote, he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. he would have been...
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and romney set his sights on the president. >> it is still about the economy. and we arestupid. >> reporter: at number nine, bain. not that one. that one. almost as soon as romney had locked up the nomination, his former private investment firm, bain capital, was sacrificed by the super pacs, and the obama campaign. >> they sucked the life out of us. >> reporter: the attack ads put romney on the defense for months. >> there is nothing wrong with being associated with bain capital, of course. >> reporter: romney vowed to strike down the health care law himself. >> i am that one that is going to get rid of obama care. >> reporter: at number seven, gas. >> governor romney, do you feel the gas over shadowed the foreign trip? >> reporter: the candidate's missteps dominated. or in romney's case, the entire foreign trip, whereporters. >> this is a holy site. >> reporter: then at number six, the conventions were remembered less for the nominees and running mates, and more for. >> what do you want me to tell romney? he can't do that to himself. >> reporter: the warmup a
and romney set his sights on the president. >> it is still about the economy. and we arestupid. >> reporter: at number nine, bain. not that one. that one. almost as soon as romney had locked up the nomination, his former private investment firm, bain capital, was sacrificed by the super pacs, and the obama campaign. >> they sucked the life out of us. >> reporter: the attack ads put romney on the defense for months. >> there is nothing wrong with being associated...
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. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his campaign staff and top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable incumbent president, the oldest son of the former massachusetts governor is raising eyebrows about his dad's initial reluctance to make a second white house run. in a story published in the "boston globe" tagg romney said his father, quote, wanted to be president less than anyone. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. "boston globe" reporter michael krenish interviewed tagg romney. >> i know there were serious discussions at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition
. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his...
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some in the mitt romney campaign who told mitt romney that he was going to win. in my mind, it was obvious all along. it is my business as a political analyst for fox news to look at polls, to ask hard questions about voter turnout models. consistently, the answer was president obama has a strong hand here and is likely to win in terms of those key swing states that were going to determine the electoral map. if you were going into this election the weekend before, it was pretty overwhelming, obama wins. gallup had them about even. there were some conservative pollsters who thought it was going to be a romney landslide. when we think young people are going to fade away and they are not as happy with president obama. you would say look at the reality of what pollsters are funding and they would say, no, and they thought there would be waived. it became wishful pecking by people talking to each other by people who work locked in a bubble. to finally come back to where you started, our people don't like president obama and who have on fairly demonized him and i think
some in the mitt romney campaign who told mitt romney that he was going to win. in my mind, it was obvious all along. it is my business as a political analyst for fox news to look at polls, to ask hard questions about voter turnout models. consistently, the answer was president obama has a strong hand here and is likely to win in terms of those key swing states that were going to determine the electoral map. if you were going into this election the weekend before, it was pretty overwhelming,...
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win -- from the romney is size. and we were able to win. hundreds of millions of dollars were spent against democratic republican super pacs. there were democratic super pacs as well. the money was spent on their side. almost all of their targets, almost all the candidates lost. i do not think that money -- that put enormous pressure on the democrat -- democratic match it. it was more so in congressional races -- people gave less information and were more subject to being influenced by ads. we saw some races -- quite a bit of money was spent against bill foster. he won overwhelmingly. $6 million of super pac money was spent against him. tammy duckworth in her race -- she was still able to win. i do not think it is a healthy thing for the body politic to have people writing $10 million, $20 million, $30 million, $40 million checks. but it is a reality we may have to live with if we cannot change it. we should try and change it through whatever means are appropriate or available. the supreme court -- the supreme court changes over time, they
win -- from the romney is size. and we were able to win. hundreds of millions of dollars were spent against democratic republican super pacs. there were democratic super pacs as well. the money was spent on their side. almost all of their targets, almost all the candidates lost. i do not think that money -- that put enormous pressure on the democrat -- democratic match it. it was more so in congressional races -- people gave less information and were more subject to being influenced by ads. we...
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are trying to blame in all on romney. it reminds me of what we democrats winter after 1972. the late and beloved note george mcgovern no longer with u was blamed for the landslide a 72. we lost 80, 84, in '88 and they're still blaming the candid it's. it was not the candid, and it was not the way he communicated. it was the message. it was -- it took bill clinton to redo the map and barack obamacare continued that legacy. the reason why the hispanic vote went for broke, is because bit romney made him look liberal n immigration policy. did not follow george bush's policies and innovation, or you might ve been president. it s about content, not the communication. lou: is not one to answer my question on the racial divide. i will try with you. >> well, i think the numbers speak for themselves. the fact that the electorate this time, the change in the percentages among white voters. if the romney campaign got l, the percenges they thought they needed to we might be talking about a different result . much bigger story tothe fa
are trying to blame in all on romney. it reminds me of what we democrats winter after 1972. the late and beloved note george mcgovern no longer with u was blamed for the landslide a 72. we lost 80, 84, in '88 and they're still blaming the candid it's. it was not the candid, and it was not the way he communicated. it was the message. it was -- it took bill clinton to redo the map and barack obamacare continued that legacy. the reason why the hispanic vote went for broke, is because bit romney...
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> romney ran on his impressive business credentials. but it was his multiple gaffes that analysts say helped seal his fate. remember the 47% comments? >> there are 47% who are with him who are dependent on government. >> oh, and this one. >> whole binders full of women. >> number six. ex-cia director general david petraeus. >> some breaking news now coming in regarding the chief of the cia. general david petraeus. >> general petraeus, can you talk about this, please? >> the news was unexpected. the reason shocking. petraeus, a retired four-star general, had quit his cia post and admitted he had cheated on his wife. petraeus' mistress was also his biographer paula broadwell. an embarrassing exit from the public stage by one of the most respected public servants of his time. >> an impressive list, huh? and that's only half of them. the most intriguing people of 2012 numbers five to one revealed after a quick break. my geico app...see? y ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside a
> romney ran on his impressive business credentials. but it was his multiple gaffes that analysts say helped seal his fate. remember the 47% comments? >> there are 47% who are with him who are dependent on government. >> oh, and this one. >> whole binders full of women. >> number six. ex-cia director general david petraeus. >> some breaking news now coming in regarding the chief of the cia. general david petraeus. >> general petraeus, can you talk about...
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tagg romney said he wanted to be press less than anyone else in the world. if he could have found someone else to make the run, he would have stepped aside. >> i do know that there were very serious discussions and concerns at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty weak and his family pushed him to say that he would be the best person given the way the field has taken shape. >> nbc's garrett hak spent nearly a year and a half covering the romney campaign. >> in between campaigns romney was definitely stung by the loss, but he never really took his eye off the ball. he wrote a book about his own personal politics and he used his pac to fund other republican candidates and that's the kind of thing you do if you think you might run again, keep your options open. >> the next president of the united states. >> reporter: if he was reluctant to run, mr. romney seems to have been under some pressure at home to seriously rally recover. last summer ann urged her husband to enter the race despite his failed bid
tagg romney said he wanted to be press less than anyone else in the world. if he could have found someone else to make the run, he would have stepped aside. >> i do know that there were very serious discussions and concerns at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty weak and his family pushed him to say that he would be the best person given the way the field has taken shape. >> nbc's garrett hak spent nearly a year and a...
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two words from mitt romney reverberated. the issue was a plan to represent employers from hiring undocumented workers. >> over time the people would lead the country or self-deport. >> that was not responsible for romney's dismal showing among hispanics but it surely greased the skids. and moments for a mulligan there was there. >> there are fortiy seven percent that are with the president that believe they are victims. >> they caused the deepest self-inflicted wound of the election. on the flip side. >> he's going to be the next vice president of the united states. >> romney's vp day may well have been the best moment of his campaign. the selection of paul ryan excited conservatives in a way that romney had not. >> how many moments are there in an hour and a half. the pictures tell the story of a man who phoned it in, providing an opening for romney. >> and finally the top three moments best described as history making politics. a supreme court decision upholding the constitutionality of obama care. and if that doesn't stri
two words from mitt romney reverberated. the issue was a plan to represent employers from hiring undocumented workers. >> over time the people would lead the country or self-deport. >> that was not responsible for romney's dismal showing among hispanics but it surely greased the skids. and moments for a mulligan there was there. >> there are fortiy seven percent that are with the president that believe they are victims. >> they caused the deepest self-inflicted wound of...
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two words from romney reverberated all the way to november. his issue was the plan to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers. >> people who come here illegally won't be able to find work and will self-deport. >> the concept of self deportation was not by itself responsibility for romney's dismal showing by his panics, but it greased the skids. also a moment where romney wished to have a mulligan, there was this -- >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% of people who are with him, who are depend upon the government, who think they're victims. >> romney calmed his remarks wrong. they also caused the deepest self-inflicted wound of the election. on the flipside -- >> the next vice president of the united states. >> romney's v.p. day may have been the best moment of his campaign. the selection of paul ryan excited conservatives in a way romney himself had not. how many moments are there in an hour and a half? the president lost all of them in the first debate. the pictures tell the
two words from romney reverberated all the way to november. his issue was the plan to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers. >> people who come here illegally won't be able to find work and will self-deport. >> the concept of self deportation was not by itself responsibility for romney's dismal showing by his panics, but it greased the skids. also a moment where romney wished to have a mulligan, there was this -- >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for...
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romney, mr. obama, prefer the republicans and the democrats. for the mass of people sent the system cannot be debated because everyone agrees, then we focus elsewhere on things like whether you can have a gun in the back of your truck or whether you can approve of being marriage or a whole host of other issues whose importance on not disputing, but are issues that get us away from this thorny problem of how the economics and politics are articulated where they're is a desire of those who run the society that that simply be ruled out of order. >> the corporations that dominate what most people in this country see here, perfecting the art of propaganda and manufacturing consent well simultaneously criminalizing dissent. i want you to talk about the very origins of this which could be traced to the much revered and in my view much overrated founding fathers, the political rally. people talk about them in hushed tones. let's hear what they have to say about these kinds of issues. james madison who wrote with hamilton the federalist papers, principa
romney, mr. obama, prefer the republicans and the democrats. for the mass of people sent the system cannot be debated because everyone agrees, then we focus elsewhere on things like whether you can have a gun in the back of your truck or whether you can approve of being marriage or a whole host of other issues whose importance on not disputing, but are issues that get us away from this thorny problem of how the economics and politics are articulated where they're is a desire of those who run...
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evangelical views are changing in part because of mitt romney's candidacy. the huge mainstreaming of mormons in america. i have a number of stories in this book about relationships that evangelicals are building with muslims. we talk a lot about my friend, reverend bob roberts, a southern baptist preacher who during the ground zero time, they win on went out on a limb with how supportive they were. bob roberts in deep red texas started reading matt 10 things i love about muslims. ten things i admire about islam. and i thought, why are you doing this? and he said, i am a christian, as is what i have to do. you people are in trouble, and i have to stand up for you. so i find that wonderful and he built a civic bridge with me, based on the inspiration of this tradition. that kind of stuff is going on a little bit below the radar screen. a little bit behind the scenes in both campaigns. i think it is a broadly positive thing for america. >> what you think is the biggest roadblock that your organization or interface groups are facing today? what do you think are
evangelical views are changing in part because of mitt romney's candidacy. the huge mainstreaming of mormons in america. i have a number of stories in this book about relationships that evangelicals are building with muslims. we talk a lot about my friend, reverend bob roberts, a southern baptist preacher who during the ground zero time, they win on went out on a limb with how supportive they were. bob roberts in deep red texas started reading matt 10 things i love about muslims. ten things i...
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romney seems to have been under some pressure at home to strongly reconsider. last summer, his wife, ann, told nbc's natalie morales, she urged her husband to enter the 2012 race despise his failed bid in 2008. >> i was the first one to say this time you you have to do this again. yes, it was gonna be painful. yes, it was gonna be hard. yes, we might fail. is but we had to go forward. >> reporter: a discussion of desire and defeat still lingering. ron mott, nbc news, boston. >>> we turn overseas to an awful scene in syria. dozens of people were killed, some of them children and many more hurt in an air strike while they waited to buy bread at a bakery. it appears to be one of the deadliest aerial attacks in that country's nearly two-year-long civil war. >>> and in india today there were mass protests in new dellism police used tear gas and water cannons on thousands were ho were demanding justice for a young woman who was raped and beaten by a group of men on a bus. the attack took place a week ago and it sparked dives rage across india and demands for authorit
romney seems to have been under some pressure at home to strongly reconsider. last summer, his wife, ann, told nbc's natalie morales, she urged her husband to enter the 2012 race despise his failed bid in 2008. >> i was the first one to say this time you you have to do this again. yes, it was gonna be painful. yes, it was gonna be hard. yes, we might fail. is but we had to go forward. >> reporter: a discussion of desire and defeat still lingering. ron mott, nbc news, boston....
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they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the iellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentati -- ryan was so identified with the privatization and a voucher for medicare idea, instead of talking about the economy, which is where they wanted it to play out, we had a lengthy debate about the economy, about medicare. i cannot think that was to their benefit. our numbers amongenior citizens were probably higher than we anticipated. >> you are noted for the axelrod never as smarte as you think you are. >> you're never as smart as when you win and you're never as dumb as when you lose. >> we talked about some of the shortcomings of the
they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the iellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentati -- ryan...
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they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the intellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentation -- ryan was so identified with the privatization and a voucher for medicare idea, instead of talking about the economy, which is where they wanted it to play out, we had a lengthy debate about the economy, about medicare. i cannot think that was to their benefit. our numbers among senior citizens were probably higher than we anticipated. >> you are noted for the axelrod never as smarte as you think you are. >> you're never as smart as when you win and you're never as dumb as when you lose. >> we talked about some of the shortcomings o
they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the intellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentation --...
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romney ran that great campaign. i think he was, he's not a charismatic person. i think a charismatic republican would have won. i don't think we had a particularly great platform. i don't think we invited in the hispanics the way we should have. but, it'll be -- it'll change. next time, maybe we'll get a better candidate. but in the meantime, life goes on and little by little, our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved. best end for democrats to a long, troubled race, re-election. >> coming up, high rollers, honey boo-boo, and the prince who had no pants, when "all the best, all the worst" rolls on. ?o [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest
romney ran that great campaign. i think he was, he's not a charismatic person. i think a charismatic republican would have won. i don't think we had a particularly great platform. i don't think we invited in the hispanics the way we should have. but, it'll be -- it'll change. next time, maybe we'll get a better candidate. but in the meantime, life goes on and little by little, our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved....
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romney ran that great campaign. i think he was, he's not a charismatic person. i think a charismatic republican would have won. i don't think we had a particularly great platform. i don't think we invited in the hispanics the way we should have. but, it'll be -- it'll change. next time, maybe we'll get a better candidate. but in the meantime, life goes on and little by little, our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved. best end for democrats to a long, troubled race, re-election. >> coming up, high rollers, honey boo-boo, and the prince who had no pants, when "all the best, all the worst" rolls on. a? it's lots of things. all waking up. connecting to the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. we're going to wake the world up. and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. cisco. tomorrow starts here. >>> in this year of big bets, quite a few high rollers grabbed headlines with their very bold
romney ran that great campaign. i think he was, he's not a charismatic person. i think a charismatic republican would have won. i don't think we had a particularly great platform. i don't think we invited in the hispanics the way we should have. but, it'll be -- it'll change. next time, maybe we'll get a better candidate. but in the meantime, life goes on and little by little, our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved....
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has romney been able to gain any traction? when you only focus on that tiny margin and get focused on double checking every hour, every day, you are missing the point of the polls. what i feel it is unfortunate is there is always a tendency to want to know the same thing but it has moved even more in that direction at the expense of looking at all of the interesting things polls can tell us. >> the election was really about fairness. republicans are not really learning that lesson into a certain extent. particularly on the and fairness issue. it is probably aggravating the problem. not just the 2% on taxation but the spending policies are out of whack. i know there was polling on income inequality. >> they do feel the economic system is unfair. the things that got them angry after the market crash was the bank bailout. things that are so extremely frustrating to people folks at the top did not seem to feel that -- the upper income percentile has largely escaped the harm and the folks of -- the burden has been carried by folks
has romney been able to gain any traction? when you only focus on that tiny margin and get focused on double checking every hour, every day, you are missing the point of the polls. what i feel it is unfortunate is there is always a tendency to want to know the same thing but it has moved even more in that direction at the expense of looking at all of the interesting things polls can tell us. >> the election was really about fairness. republicans are not really learning that lesson into a...
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romney ran that great campaign. i think he was, he's not a charismatic person. i think a charismatic republican would have won. i don't think we had a particularly great platform. i don't think we invited in the hispanics the way we should have. but, it'll be -- it'll change. next time, maybe we'll get a better candidate. but in the meantime, life goes on and little by little, our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved. best end for democrats to a long, troubled race, re-election. >> coming up, high rollers, honey boo-boo, and the prince who had no pants, when "all the best, all the worst" rolls on. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering.
romney ran that great campaign. i think he was, he's not a charismatic person. i think a charismatic republican would have won. i don't think we had a particularly great platform. i don't think we invited in the hispanics the way we should have. but, it'll be -- it'll change. next time, maybe we'll get a better candidate. but in the meantime, life goes on and little by little, our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved....
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when mitt romney says, i like to fire people, that revealed a mindset. when he talked about 47%, it revealed the mindset. >> that one sound bite that we can then play over and over and over again. >> but what steve said is they're so scripted, well, they're not so scripted until they're not. okay. and they don't script their ad libs. okay. and the ones that get in trouble with etch a sketch, that wasn't romney, but it was one of his people and the others who get in trouble like hillary rose, they make these gaffes or the candidates go off message and start ad libbing and they are not prepared to do that and it's the one sound bite that you're looking for. >> well, that's true. don't look at me looking for it. but it's driven, right, howie, by social media. so many people are dual screening and twitter is 140 characters and you want to be snappy and you want people to think, they're clever. you take big bird and binders full of women and you run with it. >> i was at the second presidential debate and i had my head down that binders full of women trying to
when mitt romney says, i like to fire people, that revealed a mindset. when he talked about 47%, it revealed the mindset. >> that one sound bite that we can then play over and over and over again. >> but what steve said is they're so scripted, well, they're not so scripted until they're not. okay. and they don't script their ad libs. okay. and the ones that get in trouble with etch a sketch, that wasn't romney, but it was one of his people and the others who get in trouble like...
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forever: life, death and hope in a mumbai -- [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> um, i find myself like mitt romney the other night without a speech. [laughter] so i just, i want to say, first, that this, that it is such an honor to have been able to be in this same room last night with the finalists who don't need me to tell them what extraordinary company they are. um, this book was done as labor of love for my husband who brought me in as a poverty writer, brought me into a world that i didn't know and made me believe that the stories there could be told. um, but the work itself was the product of some extraordinary women who believed in me in this book and gave me the time to do it, and that's binky urban and kate medina and london king and all these ferocious women at random house. and i am grateful to them. [applause] i also have to say that this book would not be possible without two other extraordinary women which are they're -- [inaudible] who are my translators on this project and who risked more than i did to tell these stories. and finally i am grateful to the courage of the people who
forever: life, death and hope in a mumbai -- [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> um, i find myself like mitt romney the other night without a speech. [laughter] so i just, i want to say, first, that this, that it is such an honor to have been able to be in this same room last night with the finalists who don't need me to tell them what extraordinary company they are. um, this book was done as labor of love for my husband who brought me in as a poverty writer, brought me into a world that i...
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tagg romney served as an adviser to the 2012 romney campaign. >>> could be the end for jack's boat house. why the historic riverfront rental shop has been told to get out by the end of next month. >>> and we got some sun today but will it last? chuck bell will tell us whether we cou >>> with less than two days now until christmas, some procrastinators spent their day shopping. we're going to show you a look at the potomac yard shopping center in alexandria where there were a lot of cars, lots of shoppers, a lot of retailers offering last-minute promotions and sales. some mike macy's and target are open 24/7 right up until christmas eve. >>> traveling today seems to be going better than yesterday. here is a live look at reagan national airport where there have been very few issues. almost everything seemed to be arriving and departing on time. >>> for those hitting the roads, they might find traffic, but they will find lower gas prices, too. prices at the pump have fallen about 12 cents in the last two weeks. according to aaa the national average for a gallon of regular is $3.24 today. it
tagg romney served as an adviser to the 2012 romney campaign. >>> could be the end for jack's boat house. why the historic riverfront rental shop has been told to get out by the end of next month. >>> and we got some sun today but will it last? chuck bell will tell us whether we cou >>> with less than two days now until christmas, some procrastinators spent their day shopping. we're going to show you a look at the potomac yard shopping center in alexandria where there...
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in case you hadn't heard, president obama defeated mitt romney last night. we know this for sure despite the fact that the returns from florida still have not been counted. some people had to wait five, six hours to vote there. what goes on in florida? they had four years to fix this and -- four years to fix things before that. [ laughter ] we need to make sure florida never gets the olympics. [ laughter ] [ applause ] the president got 303 electoral votes to romney's 206. obama led among women and minority voters while romney led among white means and banana republic mannequins. romney lost his home state of massachusetts. paul ryan lost his home state of wisconsin. i would not want to be paul ryan's shake weight today. probably getting a vigorous. a lot of people are wondering what the president will do differently in his second term. i'm hoping obama announces this will be the black half of his presidency. [ applause ] the last four years were pretty white. i'd like to see him put a little more funk in it. i'd like to see him turn this mother out for a ch
in case you hadn't heard, president obama defeated mitt romney last night. we know this for sure despite the fact that the returns from florida still have not been counted. some people had to wait five, six hours to vote there. what goes on in florida? they had four years to fix this and -- four years to fix things before that. [ laughter ] we need to make sure florida never gets the olympics. [ laughter ] [ applause ] the president got 303 electoral votes to romney's 206. obama led among women...
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romney was winning. >> you will get your chance in a moment. i'm still speak. >> mine is not as big as yours. >> you said in the rose garden it was an act of terror. >> can you say that louder? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> the binders full. >> we also have fewer bayonets. you say them louder and somehow that makes a difference. >> all tied up. our brand-new numbers in the race for president. >> here's old moderate mitt. i missed you these last few years. >> if you can't change washington from inside the white house, let's get you the plane ticket back to chicago you earned. >> voting is the best revenge. >> for revenge i asked the american people to vote for love of country. >> election day, america. >> people are choosing on the direction of the country. >> just four hours from now, the polls will close. >> it's too close to call for virginia and florida. >> pennsylvania has been held by president obama and so far not exactly the way the night that i think romney would hope for. >> ohio. president barack obama remains president of th
romney was winning. >> you will get your chance in a moment. i'm still speak. >> mine is not as big as yours. >> you said in the rose garden it was an act of terror. >> can you say that louder? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> the binders full. >> we also have fewer bayonets. you say them louder and somehow that makes a difference. >> all tied up. our brand-new numbers in the race for president. >> here's old moderate mitt. i missed...
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. >> what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people. >> it's ridiculous for people to purchase a gun. >> did you get up this morning and have a quick -- >> i probably did, i probably did. >> "piers morgan tonight: the newsmakers" starts now. >>> good evening. one of the great things about my job is that every night i get to sit down with movers and shakers, the men and women at the center of the biggest stories of the year. what do they have in common? they're all utterly fascinating. tonight you'll hear from some of my favorite guests. we'll begin with the big man himself, governor chris christie. he found himself in a bit of hot water for making nice with president obama in the wake of hurricane sandy. >> 2.8 million people without power. i've watched these extraordinary scenes over new jersey today, really quite unprecedented. i've never seen anything quite like it. have you ever seen anything like this in your lifetime? >> no, i haven't. you know
. >> what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people. >> it's ridiculous for people to purchase a gun. >> did you get up this morning and have a quick -- >> i probably did, i probably did. >> "piers morgan tonight: the newsmakers" starts now. >>> good evening. one of the great things about my job is that every night i get to sit down with movers and shakers,...
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think that is going to become more prominent in the vice presidential debate in the subsequent again romney versus obama? >> i don't think science ever plays a larger role and for me that is unfortunate. dividing that al gore would have been a better president? no. someone who routinely exaggerate some of science offends me as a scientist because that isn't what scientists are supposed to be. it can be a truth regularly took information and what we would stretch it to the point of lowercase its still scientifically somewhat accurate who and it's really stretching it here and he did that over and over and over again. his 25 rise in the sea level is assuming the dreamland ice sheet melts and no one knows if that is going to happen or not there's a lot of melting the summer, you know the arctic didn't have much ice at all so this is a problem but it isn't useful to exaggerate which is what he regular leaded and when you are caught exaggerating the problem use the credibility and the science loses credibility, so no i don't think al gore would have been a letter spokesman because i don't think
think that is going to become more prominent in the vice presidential debate in the subsequent again romney versus obama? >> i don't think science ever plays a larger role and for me that is unfortunate. dividing that al gore would have been a better president? no. someone who routinely exaggerate some of science offends me as a scientist because that isn't what scientists are supposed to be. it can be a truth regularly took information and what we would stretch it to the point of...
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evangelical views of mormons are changing in part because of mitt romney's candidacy. a huge mainstreaming of mormons in america. i have a number of stores in this book actually about relationships that evangelicals are building with muslims. and talk a lot about my friend, southern baptist preacher in texas who, during the ground zero mosque crisis, i thought that jon stewart and nick kristof went off on a limb with how supportive they were of muslims, but bob roberts in deep red texas started tweeting 10 things i love about muslims. 10 things i admire it about islam. and i'm like, why are you doing this? he's like, i'm a christian come this is what i got to do. your people are in trouble and i've got to stand up for you. so i find a, i disagree with bob on just about everything, but he built a civic bridge with me based on the aspiration of his tradition. and i kind of stuff i think again is going on a little bit below the radar screen, although the behind the scenes in both campaigns, and i think it's a broadly positive thing for america. >> what do you think is the
evangelical views of mormons are changing in part because of mitt romney's candidacy. a huge mainstreaming of mormons in america. i have a number of stores in this book actually about relationships that evangelicals are building with muslims. and talk a lot about my friend, southern baptist preacher in texas who, during the ground zero mosque crisis, i thought that jon stewart and nick kristof went off on a limb with how supportive they were of muslims, but bob roberts in deep red texas started...
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romney ran a great campaign. i think he was -- he's not a charismatic person. i think a karz charismatic repun would have won. i don't think we had a great platform. we didn't invite the hispanics in like we should have. but it will change next time. maybe we'll get at better candidate. meantime, life goes on and little by little our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved. best end for democrats to a long and troubled race? re-election. >>> coming up, high rollers, honey boo boo and the prince who had no pants. when all the best, all the worst rolls on. ♪ why should saturday night have all the fun? get two times the points on dining in restaurants, with chase sapphire preferred. good afternoon. chase sapphire. (push button tone) this is stacy from springfield. oh whoa. hello? yes. i didn't realize i'd be talking to an actual person. you don't need to press "0," i'm here. reach a person, not a prompt whenever you call chase sapphire. with olay, here's how. new regenerist eye and lash duo the cre
romney ran a great campaign. i think he was -- he's not a charismatic person. i think a karz charismatic repun would have won. i don't think we had a great platform. we didn't invite the hispanics in like we should have. but it will change next time. maybe we'll get at better candidate. meantime, life goes on and little by little our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved. best end for democrats to a long and troubled race?...
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give it to the twin pillars of politics, the relentless candidates, barack obama and mitt romney, for waging the best and worst presidential campaign of the year. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> best because it was a time for riveting battle for control of the nation. worst because it often became a war of cheap shots, questionable facts, and everything else that just exhausts voters. >> i don't think there's anything else that immediately so completely sucked up all of the energy or oxygen in the air. >> worst republican roulette, the party primary that seemed to have a new up and coming favorite every ten minutes. rick perry, herman cain, michele bachmann, newt gingrich, rick santorum. >> what a freak show, right? that whole primary season, but it was fun. it was democracy in all its messiness and glory, with issues but also some crazy stuff. ♪ america >> it was fascinating to watch the party sort of trying to define itself. >> what do you want me to tell romney? >> worst empty chair supposedly occupied by the president. >> i can't tell him to do that. can't d
give it to the twin pillars of politics, the relentless candidates, barack obama and mitt romney, for waging the best and worst presidential campaign of the year. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> best because it was a time for riveting battle for control of the nation. worst because it often became a war of cheap shots, questionable facts, and everything else that just exhausts voters. >> i don't think there's anything else that immediately so...
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dagen: what went wrong with the romney campaign? you will not believe what his son has to say about his father's reluctance to even run for president in the first place. dennis: plus, a dentist fires an assistant for being too attractive. the iowa supreme court rules it legal. will this spread? dagen: on this final shopping day before christmas, it's been a rough one this holiday season, stores don't seem that busy. dagen: merry christmas and it is all about stocks now and every 15 minutes even on christmas eve. nicole, stocks still in the red. nicole: that's right. we're seeing the dow right now at 13,142. that's a loss of about 1/3 of 1%. much like the s&p 500 and the tech heavy nasdaq composite, all three are pulling back a little bit, when you speak of the broader markets, though, when you look at the dow, we have been up four of the last five trading weeks. the trend has been to the upside. but still concerns now from washington about washington, about the fiscal cliff, traders of course don't think anything is getting settled
dagen: what went wrong with the romney campaign? you will not believe what his son has to say about his father's reluctance to even run for president in the first place. dennis: plus, a dentist fires an assistant for being too attractive. the iowa supreme court rules it legal. will this spread? dagen: on this final shopping day before christmas, it's been a rough one this holiday season, stores don't seem that busy. dagen: merry christmas and it is all about stocks now and every 15 minutes even...
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it could be the gop brand is being pulled down by mitt romney, or at least tag romney and what he said about he's recent comments. if we're talking about hand bren grenades, listen to this. he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. had he no desire to run. if key have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. um, what are people supposed to make of that? especially for the millions of americans and those big donor that is came out in support of mitt romney and his candidacy and tag romney being a big advisor to that campaign itself, but now, eh, he didn't really want it. he didn't care. >> mitt romney was plotting his run for the presidency for at least seven years. i mean, you could go back even further if you look back at how he governed in massachusetts thinking getting health care through would be something that would help him vault to a national stage. you know, all of his positioning on the issues was all designed to get through a republican primary. he didn't want it, he could have stepped aside. there wasn't a whole,
it could be the gop brand is being pulled down by mitt romney, or at least tag romney and what he said about he's recent comments. if we're talking about hand bren grenades, listen to this. he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. had he no desire to run. if key have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. um, what are people supposed to make of that? especially for the millions of americans and those big donor that is came out in...